A couple of things got left out last time
but going back again allows me to clarify a couple of points.
Back in 2007, Craig Woolheater wrote an article
for the Cryptomundo site which touched upon the interrelatedness of some Native
North American water-monsters and uncovered fossils which were supposed to have
inspired them. The discussion at that point included some quotes from one
Adrienne Mayor, author of a book on fossil discoveries and related mythology,
and cited a recent find of a fossil fish-tailed crocodile in the state of
Oregon.
"...Most intriguing, the initial
restoration of the fossil croc bears a striking resemblance to a mythic animal
of some Native American tribes, the Kiowa, Sioux, Pomo of northern California
and others, says Adrienne Mayor, a visiting scholar at Stanford University,
author of Fossil Legends of the First Americans. A University of Oregon
artist’s depiction of the crocodile greatly resembles the Kiowa artist
Silverhorn’s 1891-94 sketch of a water monster with scales, a long narrow head
with needle teeth and a forked fish-tail drawn to illustrate water serpent
legends, Mayor says. The Pomo Indians described a fish-tailed, needle-toothed
water monster called Bagil, as well. [Similar
water-monsters are described in several lakes along the California-Nevada
border, including the "Serpent" of Walker lake. The long toothy jaws
and flinty-hard scales, together with the "snaky" head and body with
the forked fish-tail, all remind me irresistably of some sort of a garfish-DD] "...A
very similar dragon-creature is described from northeastern California, Parkman
adds. The Ajumawi people have a legend of a big serpent-like creature with fish
tail and elk antlers, similar to Bagil...
"Antlers or horns are common in Native
American depictions of sacred or mysterious creatures," Mayor notes.
Parkman also notes at Serpent Cave, in Baja
California, "there are beautiful cave paintings of big serpent-like
figures sporting deer antlers and fish tails. In British Columbia, in the Stein
River Valley, there are rock paintings of alligator-like creatures sporting
fish tails. Rock art depictions of alligator-like creatures also occur
elsewhere in the U.S., including Utah, Arizona, and Ohio."[These are
Mishipizhiws. The Ohio citation includes an "Alligator" mound which
is actually a "Water-Panther" instead.]
-I would like to go on record as stating that the fossil crocodile
bears no resemblance whatsoever to any of the water-monsters under discussion.
The water-monsters all have full racks of deer, moose or elk antlers and when
they are spoken of as having feet at all, the feet have cloven hooves (for
which se the 1909 Omaha water-monster drawing). Furthermore, the fishy monsters
are all supposed to be heavily armoured with thich scales while the fossil
crocodile is scaleless. And the fossils actually show no obvious
indication that the animals were fish-tailed in life: the fin part did not
fossilize since it was only composed of soft flesh originally.
Instead all of these Water-Monsters belong to the same category of
Eurasian creatures that started out as the horse-headed, multi-humped "Sea
Serpents" of Scandinavia since the 1600s-1700s and which were seen
somewhat later on off the coast of New England and then eventually off the
coast of British Columbia as "Caddies" or "Cadborosaurus."
They were also reported regularly in Quebec since the or early 1800s
according to George Eberhart, who calls them "Horse's Heads" in this
instance. In both British Columbia and in the area around the Great Lakes, they
were definitely identified as the traditional Horned (Antlered) Water Serpents,
and the descriptions continued across Canada from sea to sea. In Ontario, the
term On Niont was on record for this sort of creature sighting in 1647-48.
These sightings I would say were one and all based on imperfect
sightings of swimming moose. And although it would seem that only the white men
would be foolish enough to be fooled by such a sight, many of the early
sightings up to the 1930s were made by Indians. It may be that these were
mostly older men, women or children who were not accustomed to seeing moose or
elk swimming.
The giveaway is when the heads are seen to bear full racks of
horns (antlers). These are shown on some of the traditional
representations including the Kiowa example from the 1890s and on the Navajo
pot labelled LB03. Without the horns being apparent we can still recognise
swimming mooses becaus of their "Bent" camel-noses, big droopy ears,
fully-haired back, and sometimes even the beard or "bell" on the
throat (See the "Cadborosaurus" representations in the photos) Moose
are indeed sometimes swimming out of sight of land at sea off both British
Columbia and Scandinavia. And although the fact might not have been recalled in
connection to these traditions, The Kiowa, Apache and Navajo are actually
Canadian peoples who migrated Southwards in the period just before the White
men came. That is why their Horned Serpents sport full racks of antlers whereas
the water-minsters of the Sioux and their neigbours only have simple one-tine
horns. The Sioux water-monsters are the ones based on actual fossil creatures,
and they astutely gathered that the pterosaurs were flying creatures, Plesiosaurs
and Mosasaurs were Sea-Monsters, and that two of the most obvious and
characteristic types of dinosaurs were the big Sauropods(which are often found
with the relatively small and fragile heads missing) and the big-headed
Ceratopsians (of which the sturdy skull is the most likely to be preserved) and
so my idea is that they put those two together and made a symbol that said
"Dinosaur" (or Unktehila, which was the
generic name they used for the same thing) Incidentally, it has been known that
the Indians knew about dinosaur fossils since the White Men began hunting for
them: they did not try to hide the fact that this was their idea from the
start. Therefore this is not a new discovery. Some of the dinosaur books I had
as a child mentioned the situation.
For a full explanation of the Water-Horse theory, please see my
CFZ blog at the link below: and if you still think the
"Train-of-Humps" represent the back of a multi-humped monster, please
pay especial attention to the photos at the end of the posting.
Best Wishes, Dale D.
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After this second submission the 1909 Omaha water-Monster drawing STILL did not make it onto the blog. Well, not to worry: its main features were that it showed a long back and tail with projections showing, a head like a deer with pronged antlers and cloven hooves. That was the point I was trying to make with the drawing, that it matched the "Water Horse" sightings. I know it was a rather crude drawing but it was still evidence. And the Navajo water pot did seem to illustrate the full rack of antlers and the shapeless "Watery" body trailing behind.
ReplyDeleteNot to gripe, Robin, but you also left out my new photos of Canadian mooses swimming! Some of those were very good illustrations for the "string-of-buoys" effect. And that was the part of my posting that was specifically Canadian, too. If you needed the photo credits I can provide them. I do thank you for posting my material in any form, though.
Anyway, next time we go onto a new topic, probably Sasquatch, probably in a couple of weeks. Aloha! Best Wishes, Dale D.